All MOT Matters

All MOT Matters

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MG MOT Test Video-(5) New MOT test conditions for 40 year old cars. 15/5/18 – YouTube

MG MOT Test Video

MG MOT Test Video

This is a great video to watch? It includes a valuable information about MOT Testing and 40 year old cars. Although at first I was a little disappointed about this new ruling. So, I am now Cool about it. As a result many of our customers that own such vehicles still come in for an MOT test. So, this is to verify that the car is in good road worthy condition in order to be insured.

Cars still require to be insured and the insurance companies dont want you running about in a 40 year old rust bucket. However enjoy the video a see what you think ?

Eric Roberts

 

MOT Testing Halifax-Why You Should NOT GO To Your Local Council-They are closing them down anyway?

MOT Testing Halifax

MOT Testing Halifax

Latest update is that The Vehicle and Operator Services Agency ( VOSA ) has closed. It’s been replaced by the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency ( DVSA ).

MOT Testing Why You Should avoid Your Local Council

Our new MOT Testing sign at Pellon Autocentre

So, my garage Pellon tyre and Autocentre has now been operating for over 35 years. As a result and we have a reputation that is second to none. Over the years we have built up a fantastic reputation and trust.

Because, we have always been straight and honest with our customers. Hence, I personally have been the owner of this garage here in Halifax. For the past 25 years. In that time we have carried out thousands of MOT tests. Of course, we have always used our best discretion. Carrying out MOT Testing. Having always had the customer’s best interest to heart.

Over the years we have only had one small dispute with a customer. Subsequently, that was the fault of our tester at the time. Replacing him as soon as we could. Thus, at the moment we only have two testers. Ryan Linton, who in my opinion is a first class mechanic. Naturally, a person and has worked for me for 22 years. We now have a second tester Mr Dale Linton.

The point that I am getting at is the massive effort that we at Pellon have put into our garage and MOT testing service,

This was in my opinion undermined. So, when I heard a guy been interviewed on radio 2. This presenter was from a website telling us how we can save money. Advising the listeners to go to the  Local Councils. Thus, for their car MOT testing. Because if they went there. Then they would not be taken for a ride or ripped off. Consequently, he was basically saying that we MOT Centres Vehicle Testing Stations. So that carry out MOT testing fail the cars intentionally. In order to give themselves the work repairing the car.

This could not be further from the truth. VOSA DVLA MOT Testing Rules statistics. Show that privately owned testing stations. As a result, are more likely to pass the car than fail the car. The money website claims that the local council run testing stations. Therefore, are more likely to pass your car than a private garage. Such as the  likes of my own garage in Halifax. So what they are saying is we are corrupt. By failing cars just to get the mechanical work.

Local Council want private MOT Testing stations to test taxis?

Other things that I am not happy with are the good reviews that they say they have had from customers of the local council testing stations. One says that they fitted a light bulb and then they passed the car, the council test stations do not do any mechanical work whatsoever, so this was a porky.

Another one stated that his car had failed at a private garage and the car needed £400 spending on it to pass the test, so the guy took his car to the council test station and they passed his without any problems. I frankly do not believe what they say, I agree that we are not all squeaky clean in the garage trade but we are well regulated by VOSA and if the figures for different failures do not look right ,then VOSA will give you a visit and try see whats going on.

Council testing stations used to charge the full going rate for MOT Testing,

But I rang round today and found out that they have now started to discount the tests, I think that they are under pressure to do more testing from the cash strapped councils. In fact we did get a notification asking us if we would like to carry out testing on behalf of the council, but I declined the offer as we are busy enough anyway.

Another problem with the local council test stations is that if your car fails, then you then have to go to a garage for the work carrying out and then they have to go back to the council for a re- test. This is a long way round when a private garage will in most cases would have done the work on the car the same day, saving the customer time and money.

MOT testing station owner Eric Roberts

There is no evidence at all to back up the Money websites claims. Fundamentally, there are no statistics from VOSA that MOT Testing stations that carry out repair work. So,  fail more cars than council run MOT testing stations. It is really clear that going to a MOT only testing stations. Such as the council run operations. Is likely to incur considerable more cost and personnel inconvenience. Especially if the car fails on a minor fault, such as a light bulb and has to make another appointment for a re-test.

VOSA the government department in charge of MOT testing. Importantly, are always watching out for garages. With bad practices and make regular visits to offending garages. MOT garages are also given colour codes that relate to their testing standard. Green is the best, then Amber, and the worse standard is Red. So, these are the ones that the ministry keep a careful eye on. It is worth finding out what standard the testing station is, before you book your car in. I am proud to say that we at Pellon Autocentre are in the best lane, the Green lane.

MOT testing station

Pellon Tyre and Autocentre offer car and van servicing and repairs to all makes of vehicles. 

Comment from Jim McMasters –

As the owner of an older car I have been tempted to use the Council test stations. This year I had two MOT tests by two different independent garages. Garage No 1 failed the car on rear brake pipes and front and rear brake hoses with both front suspension bushes advisory – cost of repairs £344 inc MOT.

Garage No 2 failed the car on front and rear brake pipes and the suspension bushes and said the brake hoses were advisory with mild corrosion on the ferrules and discoloration of rear indicator bulbs which had been replaced by Garage No1 the year before – cost of repairs £601 inc MOT.

The only thing that puts me off using the Council testing stations is that if you fail you then have to fend around for someone to fix the car within the retest period which takes time and I’ve found some garages don’t want to do brake pipe jobs if they are busy with bolt on type repairs. So I think you make a fair point in favour of the independent garage for practical purposes but as my example shows, there is a lack of consistency with garages both in testing and pricing.

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MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar-Many boyhood dreams about owning this car presented for MOT Test

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

of course, it was a sad day when the Government in all their wisdom announced that Most vehicles manufactured or first registered over 40 years ago. Hence, will, as of 20 May 2018, be exempt from periodic testing unless they have been substantially changed.

This “substantially changed “part worried some owners at first. many of these cars have had some major changes. if parts were not available, then they were re-fabricated by specialist companies.

However owners fears were quashed

when it was announced that their would have to be substantial changes to the chassis, running gear and engine capacity before the car was considered as re-built in any way. Especially in the past 30 years of ownership.

According to the UK Government web site then the following changes would be fine- The following are considered acceptable (not substantial) changes if they fall into
these specific categories:
• changes that are made to preserve a vehicle, which in all cases must be when
original type parts are no longer reasonably available;
• changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when
vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of
the end of production);
• in respect of axles and running gear changes made to improve efficiency,
safety or environmental performance;
• in respect of vehicles that have been commercial vehicles, changes which can
be demonstrated were being made when they were used commercially.

Of course this clarified the worries and concerns from the owners of these cars. meanwhile, as it happens we still get these vintage and classic cars presented for the Annual MOT Test. The E-Type Jaguar in my images is a great example. This car was the car that every teenager wanted back in the day. I was twenty years old when this car came out and boy did we want one. MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

I believe that many of these cars have to be MOT tested for insurance purposes. Consequently to make sure that the car was road worthy or not. Anyhow the white E-Type had many admirers from my other customers on that day. Including myself?

Eric Roberts

MGB-Best I Have Ever Seen -Comes in for an- MOT TEST

Mot test MGB

I could not believe my eyes when we were presented with this beautiful MGB sport car for its MOT test. I am just going to show the pictures so that you can see for yourself how nice this car is. SOME TIMES THIS IS WHAT A BLOG IS ABOUT.

The MGB was a very sought after car in the sixties and seventies

In my opinion was one of the signs that you were doing better in life if you owned one, I had the poor relation the MG Midget. I remember working for a Dunlop tyres subsidiary at the time and the MG was fitted with 165×14 Mainly Pirelli Cinturato textile radials. The guys who owned them (it was a man’s car and not many females owned one) were mainly self-employed builders and architects, this was the car for them.

Of course, the fascinating thing to me though. So, was that out of the 387,000 cars produced 90% were sold in America. Consequently, where they were as popular as they were in the UK. Subsequently, these cars were built from 1962 to the last car in 1980. Hence, the first MGB GT versions rolled off the production line, in 1965. As a result, by the end over 125,000 of these splendid cars were built. Of course, with about a third going for export.

The MGB became the World top selling sports car

Selling well over half a million cars. Therefore, was the bestselling British sports car of all time. So, by this time the cars were fitted with more of the Dunlop tyre products. Working for a Dunlop subsidiary. Thus, meant that we had more and more of these excellent sports cars entering our auto centre. Of course, for tyres and car servicing.

Over the years the MGB retained its popularity.Even now in 2014 there are many companies making and selling spare parts. You can even buy full body shells. Hence full body shells were launched by British Motor heritage back in 1988. Lastly, the shell was also used to produce the MG RV 8 in 1992.

Consequently, the technical details are as follows,

Tyres size: 165×14 and later 185r60x14 or 15 inch with alloys

 Engine: 4 cylinder in line

 Capacity: 1,798 cc

Bore & Stroke: 80.26mm x 88.9mm

Valve operation: overhead operated by tappets push-rods and rockers.

No of bearings: 5 main

Power output: 97 bhp at 5,500 rpm

Maximum torque: 105lb/ft at 2,500 rpm

Compression ratio: 9.0:1

Carburation: Twin SU’s

Clutch: Single dry plate

Suspension: front; coil and wishbone, rear; live axle with semi elliptic leaf springs.

Dampers: Armstrong lever arm front & rear

Steering: Rack and pinion

Brakes: Hydraulic with servo assistance. Front; 10.75″ dia disc. Rear; 10″ dia drum

Maximum speed: 104 mph

Acceleration: 0-60 mph: 13.0 secs

Fuel consumption: 25 mpg.

Of course, the facts were courtesy of …mgownersclub.co.uk/mgb-gt

Eric Roberts

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MGB

Rear view

MGB

MGB

Engine sparkling clean

mgb

Interior WOW

mgb

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Annual MOT Testing-Two Old Timers-Call Into Pellon Auto Centre For their Annual MOT Test

Two Old Timers Call In For

Two Old Timers Call In For

The old cars side by side

Annual MOT Testing.

Happily, I have said before, that this is a great time to be involved in the auto trade. Of course, as the owner of a successful auto centre. Then we take every day as it comes.  Consequently, apart from the work that we have booked in for that day. So, we had a run of cars that were all affected by “pothole” damage.

So, the first car was a Ford Fiesta ! Suffering from a broken coil spring . Caused by running into a pothole ! Incredibly, the second was a Vauxhall Corsa, with yet another a broken coil spring . Unluckily, the spring had also penetrated the front tyre ! Once again caused by hitting a pothole ! Thirdly the damaged car was a VW Sirocco that hit a pothole and bent his steering arm. Urgently, we manged to fit these cars in between our car services. Consequently, that were already booked in . Happily for the customers we managed to carry out the repairs and we all had a good day !

After lunch, we had another bit of excitement for me.

Unbeknownst to me, we had two vintage cars booked in for their Annual MOT Tests. Significantly, the first car was a regular one for us. So, it was a Rolls Royce tourer. With a 5.6-litre engine and built in 1936. Of course,the car easily passed the test. Apart from a Brake switch light, which we repaired on site. The company who own the vehicle always give their car a pre-mot test. Of course before it is brought into us for the MOT test. But the brake light switch must have been overlooked.

The second car that turned up was a black A35 Austin saloon. Manufactured in 1958 (I was ten years old then). Respectfully, the car was owned by the great, great Aunt of the woman who now owns the car ?

So, the Aunt passed the car onto her niece who later died. Subsequently, the car was then passed onto her niece, who is the current owner. Incredibly, the car was last serviced in 1990. Having only done 2000 miles, (it was then used to tootle around town in). The car has a 948 cc engine

Annual MOT Testing

Annual MOT Testing; Old 1958 A35 saloon car in for MOT Testing

with drums on the front brakes. Including an old fashioned rod braking system at the rear.

The car was then mothballed for the last ten in a barn

So the latest in a line of nieces decided to bring it out and restore the car. She asked for the service of a local mechanic, who looked at the car to assess its condition. Incredibly, the  car only required a new battery and started up the first time. Urgently, the brakes needed some work doing on them! Then he handed the car over to us for its mot test. Lastly, the brakes were sorted using parts from an old MG Midget. Pleasantly, the engine was in immaculate condition and had only done 6000 miles.

Passed mot test with flying colours

The old Austin had a new 063 ApolloPower battery fitted and passed the mot test in tip top condition apart from some very slight corrosion and will see driving up and down the street of Halifax here in West Yorkshire UK this summer. I just love these cars with a bit of history and a story behind them. The A35 was also fitted with cross ply tyres to the front and radials to the back.

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. Working in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. So. Working for a couple of national tyre companies before starting my first business. Of course, I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre. Blogging about anything to do with cars and their related products. Naturally, that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Trading Standards and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.

Annual MOT Testing

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MOT Garages that are removed from MOT testing scheme to be made public

MOT Garages

DVSA have agreed with Ministers to make the information publicly available following the announcement by Justine Greening MP in 2012, of the Governments’ commitment to the Garage Customer Experience.

 

Eric Roberts‘s insight:

MOT Garages testing station,owners opinion

So, as the owner of an MOT centre then I am not quit sure what this will achieve. Consequently,I know that there are thousands of normal garages. Strangely, who claim that they do MOT testing. Incredibly, but in fact do not. What they do is to take their customers car to an approved MOT  testing station. Consequently,having what we call”a trade test” carried out.

Of course, I am not saying that the car will not be tested correctly? But the test is not carried out by the garage and the car is not in their control. Subsequently, if the driver has an issue then he can not take it up directly with the testing station.

Customers should look out for the official MOT testing sign,

Concerned car owners should look out for an official MOT sign ! Usually outside the garage premises at the roadside. So looking the same as the one in my above image. Some garages have sort of look alike signs, but are not official testing stations.

I can only think that garages who have lost their  license to test cars because of a bad disciplinary record, still carry on taking cars in for testing, but have a trade test done at another official testing station, under the pretense that they still have a testing license, or simply do not remove their MOT Garages signs as if their still testing.

A list of banned testing sites will be published but i wonder who will read them?.

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. Working in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. So. Working for a couple of national tyre companies before starting my first business. Of course, I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre. Blogging about anything to do with cars and their related products. Naturally, that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Trading Standards and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.

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UK motorists-1 in 10 think the MOT test is Only an OPTION?

UK motorists,mot test

Millions of UK motorists are clueless

about the legal requirement for MOT test, insurance and road tax (Mot’s only cover approx 20% of your car being checked but servicing covers approx 70% as i was told when i last…

 

Eric Roberts’ insight:

As the owner of an MOT test station

Of course, I do believe these figures from the excellent Auto express magazine. Significantly this article makes interesting reading ! Stating that 10% of UK motorists . Many car owners do not know that the MOT test is compulsory ! Importantly,  on cars that are over three years old.

The British government are computerizing the vehicle system. Including the whole system of car insuring and road tax along with the DVLA MOT Rules. In my opinion, they would be better off aligning the three systems. This of course would make it much easier to regulate and also for ease of use to the vehicle owners.

So, enabling it impossible to have one thing without the other ! Of course, at the moment, they are not aligned . Incredibly, you could have a car insured without an MOT test. In my opinion, this will be the Governments aim. Because at the end of this year the road tax disc will be abolished and the system will go online. Making it easier for the UK motorists, the List of New MOT Rules and  details will probably have to be entered along with the insurance details. Thus tightening up on the whole system which is at the moment flawed.

Today 2019, then this as all been implemented. Therefore no UK vehicles have to show a tax disc ! Vehicle data is all computerised and also available at any time for police officers to check.

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. Working in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. So. Working for a couple of national tyre companies before starting my first business. Of course, I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre. Blogging about anything to do with cars and their related products. Naturally, that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Trading Standards and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.

See on www.autoexpress.co.uk

 

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MOT Inspection Manual Renewed-to be introduced in May to reflect testing service changes-MOT Testing Halifax

MOT Inspection Manual Renewed

MOT Inspection Manual Renewed

MOT Inspection Manual Renewed

In my mind then this falls in line with another aspect of the MOT testing scene. Last week the transport minister announced the scrapping of the first MOT test for cars of 4 year old.

As the owner of a testing station in Halifax, UK. This would have been a huge mistake. As a result the current 3 year spell will be resurrected from the scrap heap. Common sense and a lot of pressure from the garage industry showed the government what a mistake it would have been to implement the four year gap from new to the first test.

The second part of this article is about the introduction of a new MOT inspection manual. One of the implementations will be to to change the categorize a cars  defects so that they’re rated as dangerous, major, or minor.

This of course is one of those improvement that in my opinion existed on the old system. Just that the words have changed?

On this new system then the Minor is the same as the “old advisory” The major and the dangerous are both fails. The difference is that the dangerous part of fail is explained to the customer who will be warned that the car is too dangerous to drive away.

MOT Inspection Manual Renewed some parts confuse me

The “dangerous part of the fail was also available on the old system that will be replaced. So, it just looks like the swapping round of words. When talking to Ryan Linton, my MOT tester about the changes, then I became confused. We both agree that there did not seem like anything was wrong with the old part of the system with the old classes of mot reporting

It was either  pass or fail. With an option to list the car as dangerous which could be explained to the customer. As the tester an explanation for the dangerous would be given to the customer. In my simple mind then the new system looks confusing. Like anything else though, I suppose we will get used to it and everything will fall into place.

To finalise a great blog to explain all this the “matters of testing” blog and is worth a look at this subject.

Eric Roberts

Toyota Yaris Clutch Problem

The DVSA is to introduce its new MOT inspection manual for class 3, 4, 5 and 7 vehicles to reflect changes to the MOT test which will be introduced in May 2018. The new manual, which must

Source: New MOT inspection manual to be introduced in May to reflect testing service changes – Garagewire

MOT Testing Horror-As MOT tester discovers rusty holes filled with silicone on kids minibus – Garagewire

MOT Testing Horror

MOT Testing Horror

MOT Testing Horror

Unfortunately, this type story is only too common. I wrote a similar article about a Renault Megane that came into our MOT station in Halifax UK . Drivers will go to all sorts of lengths to try and get their vehicle through the MOT test. Another day we failed a car on having bad sills. The sills looked in good condition but failed the test when the sills were prodded by the tester finger.  From the outside the sills were freshly painted over with under-seal and looked in good condition. However when our tester noticed a small area of rust at one end of the sills. Some of the under-seal had fallen of. Presumably when the car was driven to the testing station.

The sills are a very important part of any car and are subject to rusting and rot. These particular sills were further investigated by the tester and were found to be stuffed with newspapers. The car failed the test and later returned with new sills fitted. As a foot note to that. The dates on the newspapers were from just two weeks before the test date. In my opinion this was just an attempt to try and fool the tester into passing the MOT test. Of course, it did not work?

MOT Testing Horror-Check out Matters of testing blog

Most testing stations carry out the MOT test to the book. This is the only way that we can keep our roads safe. I like to look at the “matters of testing” blog. As a result they show many of things such as rusty and broken cars presented for an MOT test.

Eric Roberts

MOT Testing Horror

 

A GW reader has submitted footage which shows a shocking cover-up, designed to hide dangerous rusty holes on a children’s minibus. The 53-plate Ford Transit was presented for testing at Arif’s Autofix in Glasgow with silicone

Source: Video: MOT horror as tester discovers rusty holes filled with silicone on kids minibus – Garagewire

CAR TAX DISCS TO GO- Same Way as MOT test-Done by Computer

CAR TAX DISCS

CAR TAX DISCS

A typical British road tax disc

Of course, as the owner of an MOT testing station here in Halifax UK. I am always interested in any moves by the government. Wanting  to change the system that we use for the taxing and testing. Of the cars on our roads here in the UK. So, as a blogger on the subject of cars. I also like to help inform people of any changes that may occur.

As many of the people that come to us for an MOT test do not know, the MOT Rules became computerised a few years ago now and the old hand written certificates were done away with and were replaced by an A4 size computer printout that is a receipt of your cars test results, either pass or fail.

This procedure was a great success in my opinion. All the testing received a new computer terminal. Of course,the test was carried out for that specific vehicle. From a computer check list, all clever stuff. The computer does all sorts of other things. But they are only important to the testing station. All the information is sent to a data . Naturally, based at the Vehicle & Operator Services Agency. Significantly, you can check the results of an MOT test by logging onto www.motinfo.gov.uk .

The main important thing to remember is that you need an MOT test before you can tax your car, you can now do this online at the DVLA website. Another good thing about the computer system is that all the information is sent to the police and they can check instantly if the car in font has an MOT certificate registered to it.

This is why a computerised CAR TAX DISCS will tie up with the mot test

The history of the car tax goes back to 1888. Set in motion by the then Chancellor a Mr George Goschen. At first the Tax was on the bigger carriages . Consequently,owned by the wealthy ! But he proposed a £1 duty to be paid every year. By any vehicle that had a weight of 10 cwt or more. This was to repair the roads that were damaged by the entire vehicles that used them. This was followed in 1921 by the introduction of the actual tax disc that had to be displayed on the vehicles, very much as it is today.

This now bring me up-to-date and the scraping of the CAR TAX DISCS . From October 2014 the DVLA will no longer issue an actual CAR TAX DISCS because the system is to go computerised and will tie up with the MOT test system. This new system will not affect the car owners very much; it will just mean that they will miss the fun of trying to tear the circular disc with perforations on the new disc window when it first comes through the post or from the post office.

One of the main advantages of NO CAR TAX DISCS  system will be that we will be able to pay monthly by direct debit taking the strain off some household budgets. Another advantage is that we will be able to check when the road tax is due online, but we will still get a reminder from the post office when the tax runs out. Because the total system will be digital, the police will be able to check the road tax dodgers on camera when they check your number plate it will now tell them if the car is taxed and Mot tested or not.

mot test station sign

A few questions that don’t seem to have been answered yet are, how would a person buying a second hand car know whether the car was taxed or not? Perhaps we will be able to check on a data base. Also how would we know if a vehicle has been abandoned or not, because there would be no tax disc?

Anyhow I am sure that the whole thing will be a great success and easier for the public and the police to manage in the future.

 

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. Working in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. So. Working for a couple of national tyre companies before starting my first business. Of course, I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre. Blogging about anything to do with cars and their related products. Naturally, that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Trading Standards and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.