MOT Testing-Why You Should NOT GO To Your Local Council-They are closing them down anyway?

MOT testing

Latest update is that The Vehicle and Operator Services Agency ( VOSA ) has closed. It’s been replaced by the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency ( DVSA ).

MOT Testing Why You Should avoid Your Local Council

Our new MOT Testing sign at Pellon Autocentre

My garage Pellon tyre and Autocentre has now been operating for over 35 years. As a result and we have a reputation that is second to none. Over the years we have built up a fantastic reputation and trust.

Because, we have always been straight and honest with our customers. Hence, I personally have been the owner of this garage here in Halifax. For the past 25 years. In that time we have carried out thousands of MOT tests. Of course, we have always used our best discretion. Carrying out MOT Testing. Having always had the customer’s best interest to heart.

Over the years we have only had one small dispute with a customer. Subsequently, that was the fault of our tester at the time. Replacing him as soon as we could. Thus, at the moment we only have two testers. Ryan Linton, who in my opinion is a first class mechanic. Naturally, a person and has worked for me for 22 years. We now have a second tester Mr Dale Linton.

The point that I am getting at is the massive effort that we at Pellon have put into our garage and MOT testing service,

This was in my opinion undermined. So, when I heard a guy been interviewed on radio 2. This presenter was from a website telling us how we can save money. Advising the listeners to go to the  Local Councils. Thus, for their car MOT testing. Because if they went there. Then they would not be taken for a ride or ripped off. Consequently, he was basically saying that we MOT Centres Vehicle Testing Stations. So that carry out MOT testing fail the cars intentionally. In order to give themselves the work repairing the car.

 This could not be further from the truth. VOSA DVLA MOT Testing Rules statistics. Show that privately owned testing stations. As a result, are more likely to pass the car than fail the car. The money website claims that the local council run testing stations. Therefore, are more likely to pass your car than a private garage. Such as the  likes of my own garage in Halifax. So what they are saying is we are corrupt. By failing cars just to get the mechanical work.

Local Council want private MOT Testing stations to test taxis?

Other things that I am not happy with are the good reviews that they say they have had from customers of the local council testing stations. One says that they fitted a light bulb and then they passed the car, the council test stations do not do any mechanical work whatsoever, so this was a porky.

Another one stated that his car had failed at a private garage and the car needed £400 spending on it to pass the test, so the guy took his car to the council test station and they passed his without any problems. I frankly do not believe what they say, I agree that we

MOT testing

Ryan MOT testing this vintage Rolls-Royce

are not all squeaky clean in the garage trade but we are well regulated by VOSA and if the figures for different failures do not look right ,then VOSA will give you a visit and try see whats going on.

Council testing stations used to charge the full going rate for MOT Testing,

But I rang round today and found out that they have now started to discount the tests, I think that they are under pressure  to do more testing from the cash strapped councils. In fact we did get a notification asking us if we would like to carry out testing on behalf of the council, but I declined the offer as we are busy enough anyway.

Another problem with the local council test stations is that if your car fails, then you then have to go to a garage for the work carrying out and then they have to go back to the council for a re- test. This is a long way round when a private garage will in most cases would have done the work on the car the same day, saving the customer time and money.

MOT testing station owner Eric Roberts

There is no evidence at all to back up the Money websites claims and there are no statistics from VOSA that MOT Testing stations that carry out repair work fail more cars than council run MOT testing stations.  It is really clear that going to a MOT only testing stations, such as the council run operations, is likely to incur considerable more cost and personnel inconvenience, especially if the car fails on a minor fault, such as a light bulb and has to make another appointment for a re-test.

VOSA the government department in charge of MOT testing are always watching out for garages with bad practices and make regular visits to offending garages. MOT garages are also given colour codes that relate to their testing standard, Green is the best, then Amber, and the worse standard is Red, these are the ones that the ministry keep a careful eye on. It is worth finding out what standard the testing station is, before you book your car in. I am proud to say that we at Pellon Autocentre are in the best lane, the Green lane.

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MOT testing station

Pellon Tyre and Autocentre offer car and van servicing and repairs to all makes of vehicles. 

Comment from Jim McMasters –

As the owner of an older car I have been tempted to use the Council test stations. This year I had two MOT tests by two different independent garages. Garage No 1 failed the car on rear brake pipes and front and rear brake hoses with both front suspension bushes advisory – cost of repairs £344 inc MOT.

Garage No 2 failed the car on front and rear brake pipes and the suspension bushes and said the brake hoses were advisory with mild corrosion on the ferrules and discoloration of rear indicator bulbs which had been replaced by Garage No1 the year before – cost of repairs £601 inc MOT.

The only thing that puts me off using the Council testing stations is that if you fail you then have to fend around for someone to fix the car within the retest period which takes time and I’ve found some garages don’t want to do brake pipe jobs if they are busy with bolt on type repairs. So I think you make a fair point in favour of the independent garage for practical purposes but as my example shows, there is a lack of consistency with garages both in testing and pricing.

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems-Brought to light on this video.

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems

Of course, here in the UK, steering and suspension problems, account for many of the MOT failures. So, your car can fall victim to any number of suspension and steering problems. Consequently, there are a few that are more common than others. So, here’s a guide to a couple of the most common suspension and steering problems. Including. what the MOT test says.

Steering and suspension Failures

Things to check Inside the car
The steering wheel and steering column, check for movement and wear.
Steering wheel condition, check for wear and breakages.
 Your steering wheel must be securely fixed to the steering shaft
• upper bearings of the steering
column must be inspected for wear
The steering shaft is checked for excessive end float
Clamping bolts security, visual inspection.
The split pins and locking nuts
 Check for any’free play’ in the steering
 Check the Flexible couplings and universal joints.

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems

Importantly, under the bonnet checks
Of course, this procedure is dependent on the type of vehicle. Including, the steering system used.
 A check must be made on the security of the steering rack or steering box and its mountings
• Test for any movement in the steering joints
 The same for the Swivel joints which are part of the steering system and can be readily inspected from under the bonnet will require inspecting.The new MOT test now includes a check on the presence and correct function of the cars steering lock where fitted as a standard Item.
Any missing, or split and damaged rubber dust covers on all the steering and suspension ball-joints will result in a failure if they will allow dirt and grit to enter the joint.Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.• Vehicle stands on special Swivel plates the wheels are turned from lock to lock and checked to ensure that wheels and tyres do not foul of either the structure of the vehicle or any brake pipes or hoses.
 So, make sure that wheel bearings are checked.
Steering rack gaiters/front outer constant velocity joint boots are examined.
 Subsequently, make sure that your cars Metal and rubber bushes are checked.

Typical Steering and Suspension Problems

Under vehicle steering and suspension checks
 Check all the steering joints.
 Inspect the power steering systems.
 Inspect the security of attachment of the steering rack or steering box. Check the tightness of the nuts and bolts, and structural cracking or corrosion of the vehicle chassis where it is attached.
 Inspect also the split pins and locking nuts and other locking or retaining devices relate to steering components. Some cars have an element of rear wheel steering which is checked from beneath the car. The front suspension is checked, but also the rear for:
 So,Look out for any excessive wear to the Wheel bearings.
  Finally, look at the condition of the front drive shafts and CV joints.

Of course, for more info, check out the About.com article:
http://autorepair.about.com/od/troubleshooting/a/ts_suspesnion.htm

 

MG MOT Test Video

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar-Many boyhood dreams about owning this car presented for MOT Test

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

of course, it was a sad day when the Government in all their wisdom announced that Most vehicles manufactured or first registered over 40 years ago. Hence, will, as of 20 May 2018, be exempt from periodic testing unless they have been substantially changed.

This “substantially changed “part worried some owners at first. many of these cars have had some major changes. if parts were not available, then they were re-fabricated by specialist companies.

However owners fears were quashed

when it was announced that their would have to be substantial changes to the chassis, running gear and engine capacity before the car was considered as re-built in any way. Especially in the past 30 years of ownership.

According to the UK Government web site then the following changes would be fine- The following are considered acceptable (not substantial) changes if they fall into
these specific categories:
• changes that are made to preserve a vehicle, which in all cases must be when
original type parts are no longer reasonably available;
• changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when
vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of
the end of production);
• in respect of axles and running gear changes made to improve efficiency,
safety or environmental performance;
• in respect of vehicles that have been commercial vehicles, changes which can
be demonstrated were being made when they were used commercially.

Of course this clarified the worries and concerns from the owners of these cars. meanwhile, as it happens we still get these vintage and classic cars presented for the Annual MOT Test. The E-Type Jaguar in my images is a great example. This car was the car that every teenager wanted back in the day. I was twenty years old when this car came out and boy did we want one. MOT Test for White E-Type Jaguar

I believe that many of these cars have to be MOT tested for insurance purposes. Consequently to make sure that the car was road worthy or not. Anyhow the white E-Type had many admirers from my other customers on that day. Including myself?

Eric Roberts

MGB-Best I Have Ever Seen -Comes in for an- MOT TEST

Mot test MGB

I could not believe my eyes when we were presented with this beautiful MGB sport car for its MOT test. I am just going to show the pictures so that you can see for yourself how nice this car is. SOME TIMES THIS IS WHAT A BLOG IS ABOUT.

The MGB was a very sought after car in the sixties and seventies

In my opinion was one of the signs that you were doing better in life if you owned one, I had the poor relation the MG Midget. I remember working for a Dunlop tyres subsidiary at the time and the MG was fitted with 165×14 Mainly Pirelli Cinturato textile radials. The guys who owned them (it was a man’s car and not many females owned one) were mainly self-employed builders and architects, this was the car for them.

Of course, the fascinating thing to me though. So, was that out of the 387,000 cars produced 90% were sold in America. Consequently, where they were as popular as they were in the UK. Subsequently, these cars were built from 1962 to the last car in 1980. Hence, the first MGB GT versions rolled off the production line, in 1965. As a result, by the end over 125,000 of these splendid cars were built. Of course, with about a third going for export.

The MGB became the World top selling sports car

Selling well over half a million cars. Therefore, was the bestselling British sports car of all time. So, by this time the cars were fitted with more of the Dunlop tyre products. Working for a Dunlop subsidiary. Thus, meant that we had more and more of these excellent sports cars entering our auto centre. Of course, for tyres and car servicing.

Over the years the MGB retained its popularity.Even now in 2014 there are many companies making and selling spare parts. You can even buy full body shells. Hence full body shells were launched by British Motor heritage back in 1988. Lastly, the shell was also used to produce the MG RV 8 in 1992.

Consequently, the technical details are as follows,

Tyres size: 165×14 and later 185r60x14 or 15 inch with alloys

 Engine: 4 cylinder in line

 Capacity: 1,798 cc

Bore & Stroke: 80.26mm x 88.9mm

Valve operation: overhead operated by tappets push-rods and rockers.

No of bearings: 5 main

Power output: 97 bhp at 5,500 rpm

Maximum torque: 105lb/ft at 2,500 rpm

Compression ratio: 9.0:1

Carburation: Twin SU’s

Clutch: Single dry plate

Suspension: front; coil and wishbone, rear; live axle with semi elliptic leaf springs.

Dampers: Armstrong lever arm front & rear

Steering: Rack and pinion

Brakes: Hydraulic with servo assistance. Front; 10.75″ dia disc. Rear; 10″ dia drum

Maximum speed: 104 mph

Acceleration: 0-60 mph: 13.0 secs

Fuel consumption: 25 mpg.

Of course, the facts were courtesy of …mgownersclub.co.uk/mgb-gt

Eric Roberts

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MGB

Rear view

MGB

MGB

Engine sparkling clean

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Interior WOW

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MOT Garages that are removed from MOT testing scheme to be made public

MOT Garages

DVSA have agreed with Ministers to make the information publicly available following the announcement by Justine Greening MP in 2012, of the Governments’ commitment to the Garage Customer Experience.

 

eric roberts‘s insight:

I as the owner of an MOT Garages testing station,

are not quit sure  what this will achieve. I know that there are thousands of garages who claim that they do MOT testing but in fact do not. What they do is to take the car to an

approved MOT Garages testing station and have what we call”a trade test” carried out.

I am not saying that the car will not be tested correctly, but the test is not carried out by the garage and the car is not in their control. If the driver has an issue then he can not take it up directly with the testing station.

Customers should look out for the official MOT testing sign,

the same as the one in my picture. Some garages have sort of look alike signs, but are not official testing stations.

I can only think that garages who have lost their  license to test cars because of a bad disciplinary record, still carry on taking cars in for testing, but have a trade test done at another official testing station, under the pretense that they still have a testing license, or simply do not remove their MOT Garages signs as if their still testing.

A list of banned testing sites will be published but i wonder who will read them?.

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. I have worked in the Garage and

tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. I have worked for a couple for national tyre companies in my younger days, before starting my first business. I now own a garage and MOT testing centre, here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre, and I am a keen blogger about anything to do with cars and their related products that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Motor-Codes and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre and of course Tyre-safe.

UK motorists-1 in 10 think the MOT test is Only an OPTION?

UK motorists,mot test

Millions of UK motorists are clueless about the legal requirement for MOT test, insurance and road tax (Mot’s only cover approx 20% of your car being checked but servicing covers approx 70% as i was told when i last…

 

eric Roberts’ insight:

As the owner of an MOT test station

I can believe these figures from the excellent Auto express magazine. This article makes interesting reading and state that 10% of UK motorists, car owners do not know that the MOT test is compulsory on cars that are after three years old.

The British government are computerising the whole system of car insuring and road tax along with the DVLA MOT Rules. In my opinion, they would be better off aligning the threeUK motorists,mot test

MOT test sign to look out for

together so that you could not have one without the other. At the moment, they are not aligned and you could have a car insured without an MOT test. In my opinion, this will be the Governments aim as at the end of this year the road tax disc will be abolished and the system will go online and make it easier for the UK motorists, the List of New MOT Rules and  details will probably have to be entered along with the insurance details, thus tightening up on the whole system which is at the moment flawed.

Eric Roberts

Hi, I would like to introduce myself. I have worked in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. I have worked for a couple of national tyre companies in my younger days, before starting my first business. I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre, and I am a keen blogger about anything to do with cars and their related products that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and Motor-Codes and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre and, of course, Tyre-safe.

See on www.autoexpress.co.uk

 

CAR TAX DISCS TO GO- Same Way as MOT test-Done by Computer

CAR TAX DISCS

CAR TAX DISCS

A typical British road tax disc

As the owner of an MOT testing station here in Halifax UK, I am always interested in any moves by the government to change the system that we use for the taxing and testing of the cars on our roads here in the UK. As a blogger on the subject of cars I also like to help inform people of any changes that may occur.

As many of the people that come to us for an MOT test do not know, the MOT Rules became computerised a few years ago now and the old hand written certificates were done away with and were replaced by an A4 size computer printout that is a receipt of your cars test results, either pass or fail.

This procedure was a great success in my opinion, all the testing received a new computer terminal and the test was carried out for that specific vehicle from a computer check list, all clever stuff. The computer does all sorts of other things but they are only important to the testing station. All the information is sent to a data base at the Vehicle & Operator Services Agency and you can check the results of an MOT test by logging onto www.motinfo.gov.uk .

The main important thing to remember is that you need an MOT test before you can tax your car, you can now do this online at the DVLA website. Another good thing about the computer system is that all the information is sent to the police and they can check instantly if the car in font has an MOT certificate registered to it.

This is why a computerised CAR TAX DISCS will tie up with the mot test

The history of the car tax goes back to 1888 and was set in motion by the then Chancellor a Mr George Goschen. At first the Ta x was on the bigger carriages owned by the wealthy, but he proposed a £1 duty to be paid every year by any vehicle that had a weight of 10 cwt or more. This was to repair the roads that were damaged by the entire vehicles that used them. This was followed in 1921 by the introduction of the actual tax disc that had to be displayed on the vehicles, very much as it is today.

This now bring me up-to-date and the scraping of the CAR TAX DISCS . From October 2014 the DVLA will no longer issue an actual CAR TAX DISCS because the system is to go computerised and will tie up with the MOT test system. This new system will not affect the car owners very much; it will just mean that they will miss the fun of trying to tear the circular disc with perforations on the new disc window when it first comes through the post or from the post office.

One of the main advantages of NO CAR TAX DISCS  system will be that we will be able to pay monthly by direct debit taking the strain off some household budgets. Another advantage is that we will be able to check when the road tax is due online, but we will still get a reminder from the post office when the tax runs out. Because the total system will be digital, the police will be able to check the road tax dodgers on camera when they check your number plate it will now tell them if the car is taxed and Mot tested or not.

mot test station sign

A few questions that don’t seem to have been answered yet are, how would a person buying a second hand car know whether the car was taxed or not? Perhaps we will be able to check on a data base. Also how would we know if a vehicle has been abandoned or not, because there would be no tax disc?

Anyhow I am sure that the whole thing will be a great success and easier for the public and the police to manage in the future.

 

Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. I have worked in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. I have worked for a couple for national tyre companies in my younger days, before starting my first business. I now own a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre, and I am a keen blogger about anything to do with cars and their related products that will help my business. We are members of Point-S and MotorCodes and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.

 

MOT Testing Horror

KIA Sedona- a bad Case of Rust -MOT Test Failure

KIA Sedona- a bad Case of Rust -MOT Test Failure

Modern cars these days rarely have major rust problems. Gong back a few years I remember some models of cars that were always rusting badly and rotting.

KIA Sedona,mot test

Tester Ryan Linton could get his hand into the sills of this KIA Sedona

From Italy came the Fiat Strada and the Fiat X1.9. Also some of the Lancias were rust buckets. France also sent us some rusty cars. I remember one of the first Renault Dauphins that dropped to bits when it had a slight bump. Hence, due to rust and later the Renault 12. France also gave us the early Citroen CV2s, pre 1970 models could be very bad. But they were improved after 1970.

Some of the British made cars were the Triumphs and the MGs. Of course, any of which could develop  rust problems after a couple of years. Oh, and not forgetting the Minis. Mini owners could buy a complete front end replacement that just bolted on after most of the front end had rotted and not forgetting the Mini boots of course were always swilling with water and rotting away sometimes nearly losing the battery which was kept in the boot?

KIA Sedona

German cars neither did nor fair too badly. So, I can remember rust problems with the VW Beetles, some required complete floor panels and engine mountings would rust, making the engine unsafe. Also the older members of the garage trade will remember the rusty Hillmans including the Hillman Imps, there competition to the Minis.

The list goes on and on but over the years the car manufacturers have developed modern methods of rust proofing their car products, so it was a surprise to me to about the problems that Kia were having with some of their models, including the Sedona. When a Kia  Sedona was presented to my garage for an MOT test the other day, we did not expect it to fail on rotten sills and badly corroded brake pipes. I decided to do a little research and found that the Kia’s rust problem was quit common, this surprised me because apparently some cars are fine and don’t rust but some do, this reminded me of the don’t buy a car that was made on Friday because car workers would take short cuts to get home on time.

Kia Sedona Failed the MOT test

However this particular Kia  Sedona failed the test on the holes in the sills and badly Corroded Brake Pipes, the engine was also smoky but we could cure that with diesel cleaner. The car was repaired by Ryan and was re-tested and passed.

KIA Sedona,mot test

Badly corroded brake pipes totally collapsed when they were removed. KIA Sedona

 Eric Roberts

Hi I would like to introduce myself. Working in the Garage and tyre and Battery business now for 40 years. I have worked for a couple for national tyre companies in my younger days. Before starting my first business. Now owning a company here in the UK called Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre. Blogging about anything to do with cars and their related products that will help my business. Also members of Point-S and MotorCodes and are also a Unipart Car Care Centre.KIA Sedona,mot test

Range Rover Sport and Some Other Nice Cars for the MOT TEST.

Range Rover Sport

Range Rover Sport

Ryan fitting the new discs and pads to the red BMW Mini

I love taking some pictures and writing small articles.Especailly, about the cars that we have had presented to us. Hence, for different work to be carried out. So, it also pleases me that our customers trust us to look after their cars.Naturally, whilst they are in our care. Subsequently, this week for instance we have had a really diverse mix of cars. From an Aston Martin to a Reliant Robin that came in for a new battery fitting.

Another smart looking car was a very nice Range Rover Sport, a 2007 model. Turning  up for an MOT test and a service. I must admit that I didn’t like these cars a first. Of course, some of the later models are excellent cars. This particular car had a problem with a diesel leak. Which we found out to be a leak coming through one of the near side injectors.

Ryan Linton my chief mechanic fixed the car by fitting a new injector seal, this was an option that we had rather than fit a complete injector this also saved the customer a few pounds in repair fees.

The Range rover had a set of 22 inch tyres and wheels fitted, and the tyres were wearing away at the edges, but Ryan issued an advisory notice for this and did not fail the car. After the car was serviced and washed the car was collected by another happy customer.

Next job for an MOT test a smart red BMW Mini

I must admit that I prefer the old BLMC Minis to the new BMW Minis but some of the colour schemes on the BMW Minis are just special. The car that we had in for an MOT test was in my favourite colour red. The car was really eye catching and I could not resist taking a picture.

Range Rover Sport

Range Rover Sport in for a service and an MOT test

The Mini was the next test after the Range Rover and failed the test on the brake tester. The customer gave us permission to do the brake work and after removing the wheels we found that the car required discs and pads at the front and pads to the rear. We are a Unipart Car Care Centre and so we fitted genuine Unipart discs and pads.

Ryan finished the job and the BMW Mini went on its way with another very happy customer.

Post Written by Eric Roberts… www.mot-halifax .co.uk

Toyota Yaris Clutch Problem

RENAULT MEGANE-Fails MOT Test (miserably?) massive rust problems.

RENAULT MEGANE Turns up for the MOT test with a massive hole in the sills

RENAULT MEGANE,mot test

Renault Megan with huge hole in the sill

When you run an MOT test centre, we see all sorts of things on the cars that we test. In general motorists a re very good and the majority look after their cars. We do however the opposite end of the scale and are presented with cars that are dropping to bits. The majority of cars fail on silly little things, such as light bulbs that do not work. These include Headlights, indicators, brake lights, any damaged reflectors and your headlamp aim, they are all easy to check out if you need more information about you MOT test you can check on the VOSA web-site the governing body that oversees the MOT test system here in the UK.WE at Pellon MOT centre here in Halifax UK, recommend that the car owner should check his car over before presenting it to an MOT station for testing.

If you are the owner of a French car you are likely to have a first time fail. Citroen, Peugeot, and Renault were all in the bottom five brands for first time cars being tested for the first time. The worse French car to fail the test was the Renault Megane. Only 71% of these cars that were registered in 2008 actually passed their first MOT test, what does that say?

Source for this information…http://www.which.co.uk/news/2012/05/one-in-five-cars-fails-its-first-mot-285886/

Megane turns up for MOT test

This brings me on to a little story that happened today Monday  23rd 2013 We had a Renault Megane booked in for an MOT test. The Renault Megane turned up and Ryan Linton, our tester proceeded to carry out the test. When it came to checking for corrosion he found a well rotted rusty sill that he could nearly fit his fist through. He also found that the front discs brakes were rotten with rust.  A few other things were failures, some light bulbs were gone and the catalytic convertor was in need of replacing. Altogether a very expensive MOT test.

Renault Megane,mot test

Renault Megane rusted up front discs

Article and pictures by Eric Roberts… www.mot-halifax.co.uk

Pellon Tyre and Auto-centre offer car and van servicing and repairs to all makes of vehicles. We are members of Unipart Car Care centres and give a nationwide guarantee for all our work and parts. We also sell tyres online from our website www.pellonautocentre.com by using the tyre selector and choosing your tyre size. We offer courtesy cars to local motorists who need to go to work and leave their car with us for work doing. We are also an official MOT testing station and are members of Motor-codes, who carry out checks for high standard of equipment and workmanship.